If you weren't aware Tidal just decided to remove their free subscription in April 2024, so the "Wave" xManager app (which was just Tidal) is going to stop working for users very soon. A lot of people used Tidal for its ability to offline music for listening without Internet. Of course, there are plenty of ways to just download albums (torrents, soulseek, etc) but none of those are really a good replacement for Tidal. I'm curious what Android users who used xManager's Wave are going to switch to for a more elegant solution, so this thread is to discuss that.

REMINDER: This is in the Android Software section, so we're going to try to only talk about Android solutions for the most part.

Possible replacements:
> Murglar 2 -- An attempt to replace Freezer, which has been defunct for years. It tries to allow users to offline and / or download from Deezer. I'm not clear on whether this requires manual user updating of ARLs, however I would suspect that would be needed to continue. I've not verified this as a legitimate malware free option, however it is hosted on GitHub, which is encouraging. The developer appears to be Russian, but provides support in English too, both on GitHub and on a detected Telegram help channel. I have not used this yet personally, so do your own homework before trusting it. It passes a Virus Total check, but I still don't really trust it until someone more knowledgeable than me takes a look at the code and decides it's ok. I know we have some folks here capable of that, so if you are one of those people and feel like having a look at this app, please share your thoughts here.

> Spotube - An app that can be found right on the Play Store, an allows you to link your Spotify playlists into the app. It allows for downloading of your Spotify songs by attempting to find the song on YouTube, and download it that way. I believe I recall that there is a risk of having your Google account banned if you abuse the downloading too much, so proceed with caution. Obviously, this won't be perfect, because it won't match up perfectly from Spotify to YouTube, and quality can be poor sometimes.

> spmp
Similar to Spotube.

> Spowlo
Similar to Spotube.

> Telegram bots
I haven't really found any that pull music directly from Spotify, Deezer or Tidal, so I suspect they basically are doing the same thing as Spotube and the others (downloading from YouTube). If anyone finds a bot that actually grabs music straight from the source, please let me know.


Defunct apps:
> Deezloader
> Freezer
> AIDS


Other non-Android options: (I know, I know, this isn't an Android solution, but I only am mentioning it because someone else might get confused and think it *is* an Android solution.)

> Deemix -- A someone for Windows. This is probably one of the best options out there if you don't need to use Android. I'll let you guys do your own research.

What have I missed?
Are there any offline / download Android apps that work to easily offline and / or download your Tidal, Deezer, or Spotify playlists?

What happened to Deezer? No update since last year

If you're referring to the patched version of Deezer, it hasn't been able to do Offline music for a while now because of changes Deezer made on the server side.

This post was really helpful, thanks. :)

You're welcome. I just edited the OP with some additional info. To me it still appears that Murglar is the most likely solution, however I won't install it until I see some feedback from folks who actually know how to make sure apps are clean and aren't doing sketchy stuff. It passes a Virus Total, but I haven't seen nearly enough community feedback to feel comfortable with it yet.

On Telegram I use the Bot called "DeezLoad" to download songs with covers apparently from Deezer servers. It's very good, but sometimes it has limits or you have to wait a few minutes to download another song.

If you`re referring to the patched version of Deezer, it hasn`t been able to do Offline music for a while now because of changes Deezer made on the server side.

Take a look at, streamrip by Nathom on GitHub. Really nice piece of software.
https://github.com/nathom/streamrip

How can using Spotube or similar clients lead to banning of Google account? To download from Youtube, there is no requirement for being logged in to a Google account in the first place, hence, no security risk of that kind. One can scrape Youtube all night long with yt-dlp and Google won't move an inch.

Not every song I want is available on Deezer or any other one platform, so I want to avoid using platform-specific apps. I download music using various downloading services like doubledouble.top and from a variety of platforms from Apple Music to Tidal to Deezer to Qobuz. I like to download lossless (flac & alac) on my PC and then use fre:ac to convert to .opus before moving the files to my phone where I can play them with whatever music player I like (currently using Musicolet).

P.S. I strongly recommend against using services like Spotube because YT simply does not provide decent audio unless you use something like yt-dlp to extract the original .opus audio track. And obviously, never convert from a lossy format to another lossy format (aac, mp3, ogg, opus) otherwise you'll experience generation loss. That's why downloading lossless is best, then you can convert to whatever format you want (for reference, generally opus > aac = ogg > mp3). Remember that .m4a files can be either aac (lossy) or alac (lossless) so if your chosen downloader gives you m4a files, always check them to make sure (you can usually tell by the size, since lossless files are large. A 20MB alac m4a would be like 5MB as an aac m4a, depending on the aac bitrate ofc).